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Post by DarknessLink7 on Dec 8, 2015 14:30:29 GMT -5
I figured it would be cool to share our thoughts on the story up to a certain point somewhere. I love to read what people think.
Keep in mind, no spoilers for anything other than chapter 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10.
Anyway, to kick things off; Here are the main mysteries so far in my opinion:
1. Why did the alien races battle two years ago? 2. Who was the mysterious defender of the White Whale? 3. Why are the Ganglion so passionate about killing humans? 4. Who is Goetia and what is her motivation? Answer: A Ganglion working for Luxaar, intent on exterminating all humans. 5. Why does the number on the BLADE tower decrease? Answer: To signify the amount of mim fuel left. 6. How are the humans able to understand the languages? 7. What is the Great One that Luxaar is talking about? 8. What is the giant black Mech that we found? Answer: The vessel of The Great One called the Vita. 9. What was that thing than Vandham wanted to bring up about Elma in the hangar? 10. Why did the huge flying monster save us from the Tainted? 11. What's up with Lao? Answer: He apparently helped the Ganglion retrieve the Vita for reasons unknown. 12. Why are the Ganglion afraid of our real bodies? 13. Where the heck IS the lifehold?
Do you have any cool questions or ponderings so far?
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Post by DarknessLink7 on Dec 17, 2015 20:08:46 GMT -5
Just finished chapter 10 and that boss battle was even more intense than the last one! I can't believe how much trouble I had with the second round... It took me at least four hours to beat it. And I wasn't particularly underlevelled either (I was lv.40), so I must be a lot worse at this game than I thought. XD
Again, they weren't really clear on if the bad guys died or not. I'm gonna assume they died since we never saw Goetia again after her boss fight in ch.7. Plus, we kinda did see Ryyz get swallowed by flames, so... A shame since she was pretty cool. Dagdahn seemed to genuinely care for her too, which was interesting.
Nevertheless, very cinematic boss and fun to see Luxaar so pissed off. I wonder how they're gonna wrap this story up in only two more chapters. If I didn't already know there are only 12 chapters I would think we were about halfway through the story. O.o
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Post by heroponriki on Dec 19, 2015 23:01:16 GMT -5
That would have been a really amazing boss if I was at the appropriate level, but I had just reached level 50 and my shiny new skell obliterated it. Oh well, it still looked cool! If I'm not mistaken that's the same boss that was seen at the end of the first E3 trailer in Cauldros so either there's another one of those things or they changed the location to Sylvalum. Probably the latter since that trailer was almost 2 years before the game released.
For whatever reason a ton of affinity missions were locked out until post chapter 10, so it will probably be a while before I get around to the next story chapter. It's quite possible I'll be maxed out to level 60 by the time the final boss shows up.
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Post by Max Galactica on Mar 27, 2016 2:17:22 GMT -5
Just when you think Monolith Soft can't make anything bigger than they already have, they throw Zu Pharg at you. It must have been a huge technical feat for Monolith Soft to pull that off on the Wii U. It was a really fun fight for me. I ended up fighting it on foot with no overdrive, making the battle last about 15 minutes. I also really enjoyed the banter between Ryyz and Dagahn. It was pretty entertaining.
Other than that, I feel like the story hasn't actually made any progress at all since the beginning. Sure, we find out new things like how we're mimeosomes and that the Ganglion are afraid of us and about the Vita and all that. But we actually haven't done anything about it. We keep talking about finding the Lifehold Core, but we really are making no progress towards finding it whatsoever. There is the Lao side story that's pretty interesting, but it hasn't come to fruition yet (I was hoping that we would confront him this chapter, but it didn't happen). I feel like they're going to dump everything that'll make the story good in chapter 12, which is really not a good thing.
So overall, great boss, but a disappointing chapter.
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Post by flameheadshero on Mar 27, 2016 15:59:33 GMT -5
Just when you think Monolith Soft can't make anything bigger than they already have, they throw Zu Pharg at you. It must have been a huge technical feat for Monolith Soft to pull that off on the Wii U. It was a really fun fight for me. I ended up fighting it on foot with no overdrive, making the battle last about 15 minutes. I also really enjoyed the banter between Ryyz and Dagahn. It was pretty entertaining. Other than that, I feel like the story hasn't actually made any progress at all since the beginning. Sure, we find out new things like how we're mimeosomes and that the Ganglion are afraid of us and about the Vita and all that. But we actually haven't done anything about it. We keep talking about finding the Lifehold Core, but we really are making no progress towards finding it whatsoever. There is the Lao side story that's pretty interesting, but it hasn't come to fruition yet (I was hoping that we would confront him this chapter, but it didn't happen). I feel like they're going to dump everything that'll make the story good in chapter 12, which is really not a good thing. So overall, great boss, but a disappointing chapter. Hmm... I won't confirm or deny your fears as to not spoil anything for you but I felt the same way you did when I was at this point in the story. Chapter 10 very much does feel like clean up for Ryyz and Dagahn. The boss fight is great though. Also, a thing that's easy to miss is that you are actively searching for the Lifehold Core by planting probes. That's why certain story missions have a requirement of "Survey __% of ____." It may just seem like an arbitrary requirement but the idea is that you plant a certain amount of probes which allow you to pick up on Lifehold signals and other things of interest which is why you'll start the mission and Vandham will say "We found ____."
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Post by Max Galactica on Mar 27, 2016 16:13:18 GMT -5
Just when you think Monolith Soft can't make anything bigger than they already have, they throw Zu Pharg at you. It must have been a huge technical feat for Monolith Soft to pull that off on the Wii U. It was a really fun fight for me. I ended up fighting it on foot with no overdrive, making the battle last about 15 minutes. I also really enjoyed the banter between Ryyz and Dagahn. It was pretty entertaining. Other than that, I feel like the story hasn't actually made any progress at all since the beginning. Sure, we find out new things like how we're mimeosomes and that the Ganglion are afraid of us and about the Vita and all that. But we actually haven't done anything about it. We keep talking about finding the Lifehold Core, but we really are making no progress towards finding it whatsoever. There is the Lao side story that's pretty interesting, but it hasn't come to fruition yet (I was hoping that we would confront him this chapter, but it didn't happen). I feel like they're going to dump everything that'll make the story good in chapter 12, which is really not a good thing. So overall, great boss, but a disappointing chapter. Hmm... I won't confirm or deny your fears as to not spoil anything for you but I felt the same way you did when I was at this point in the story. Chapter 10 very much does feel like clean up for Ryyz and Dagahn. The boss fight is great though. Also, a thing that's easy to miss is that you are actively searching for the Lifehold Core by planting probes. That's why certain story missions have a requirement of "Survey __% of ____." It may just seem like an arbitrary requirement but the idea is that you plant a certain amount of probes which allow you to pick up on Lifehold signals and other things of interest which is why you'll start the mission and Vandham will say "We found ____." I guess that's true. Although the immersion of that is kind of broken for me, since I already planted all of the probes a long time ago. The only two that I planted recently were the Talon Rock and the floating island in Oblivia probes. The rest I was able to plant right after getting my skell.
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Post by DarknessLink7 on Mar 27, 2016 18:25:30 GMT -5
Hmm... I won't confirm or deny your fears as to not spoil anything for you but I felt the same way you did when I was at this point in the story. Chapter 10 very much does feel like clean up for Ryyz and Dagahn. The boss fight is great though. Also, a thing that's easy to miss is that you are actively searching for the Lifehold Core by planting probes. That's why certain story missions have a requirement of "Survey __% of ____." It may just seem like an arbitrary requirement but the idea is that you plant a certain amount of probes which allow you to pick up on Lifehold signals and other things of interest which is why you'll start the mission and Vandham will say "We found ____." I guess that's true. Although the immersion of that is kind of broken for me, since I already planted all of the probes a long time ago. The only two that I planted recently were the Talon Rock and the floating island in Oblivia probes. The rest I was able to plant right after getting my skell. Heya! Glad to see you beat chapter 10, Max! I agree with your thoughts on the chapter. I believe chapter 2, 7 and 10 to be the most uninteresting chapters in the game as far as story goes. Regarding the immersion, just imagine BLADE is analyzing the data. With such a massive flow of info from all the probes you've planted surely it would take some time to go though it all.
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Post by Primulus on Mar 28, 2016 15:34:11 GMT -5
I guess that's true. Although the immersion of that is kind of broken for me, since I already planted all of the probes a long time ago. The only two that I planted recently were the Talon Rock and the floating island in Oblivia probes. The rest I was able to plant right after getting my skell. Heya! Glad to see you beat chapter 10, Max! I agree with your thoughts on the chapter. I believe chapter 2, 7 and 10 to be the most uninteresting chapters in the game as far as story goes. Regarding the immersion, just imagine BLADE is analyzing the data. With such a massive flow of info from all the probes you've planted surely it would take some time to go though it all. I kinda agree. While Chapter 10 has an amazing boss fight, it is a pretty underwhelming chapter. Luckily, MaxGalactica, I think a lot of us are in agreement that chapter 11 is a lot better and more satisfying. There's one specific moment of the chapter that a lot of people criticize, though, but not nearly for the same reasons or context as chapter 10 is criticized here. I didn't mind it myself, though, but generally the people who criticize chapter 11 seem to also greatly dislike the relevant characters involved in that moment. Those who like those characters tend to not hold criticisms of it quite as much. There's also a lot I want to say about this chapter, but the more I think about it, the more I should hold my tongue, at least until MaxGalactica finishes chapter 12. I'll come back to it if I remember to do so.
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Post by ancientrune on Mar 29, 2016 7:13:14 GMT -5
Same boat here with the others on the chapter and not wanting to say anything to avoid accidentally spoiling the next two chapters. All I have to say I'd that I enjoy reading your astute observations.
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Post by shieldlesscap on Jun 13, 2016 7:48:15 GMT -5
I agree that Chapter 10 is pretty underwhelming because (Like Chapter 7) it mostly exists to kill off a character who only showed up once. It would've been awesome to see Ryyz as a rival of sorts. In my opinion, they should've had Dagahn and Ryyz show up during Chapter 9 to nearly destroy Lao's mim, and while it is already there, ramp up more on the emotional cutscene with Lao after that. Then Dagahn and Ryyz should've showed up in Chapter 12 and maybe if New in NLA became a requirement for Chapter 11, then Celica and Rock could show up to Chapter 12 so Rock would fight Dagahn while you have a final battle against Ryyz before reaching the Lifehold.
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Post by Primulus on Jun 13, 2016 21:39:35 GMT -5
I agree that Chapter 10 is pretty underwhelming because (Like Chapter 7) it mostly exists to kill off a character who only showed up once. It would've been awesome to see Ryyz as a rival of sorts. In my opinion, they should've had Dagahn and Ryyz show up during Chapter 9 to nearly destroy Lao's mim, and while it is already there, ramp up more on the emotional cutscene with Lao after that. Then Dagahn and Ryyz should've showed up in Chapter 12 and maybe if New in NLA became a requirement for Chapter 11, then Celica and Rock could show up to Chapter 12 so Rock would fight Dagahn while you have a final battle against Ryyz before reaching the Lifehold. Personally... I'm not quite convinced Ryyz is dead, if they're actually making a sequel.
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