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Post by atomicness on Feb 13, 2017 18:04:13 GMT -5
I don't know what's there to be vague about. They both clearly have Zohars on their necks. What else are we going to call that? It looks almost exactly like the Xenosaga Zohar to a T. You said the the redhead and blonde girl in the trailer look more like "actual humans", but what does that mean? A Zohar symbol on their chest doesn't mean they're more human than another person. They look more human than an alien elf lady does I can't believe I'm agreeing with TheMetallicMuse here. I'm sure that won't last forever though. Right now, we simply know too little about what defines Blades and Drivers to know anything, and almost everything is purely conjecture. If there is a connection anywhere, I would think this game is a direct but distant sequel to the first Xenoblade Chronicles (rationalized by the fact that it was titled Xenoblade 2 when it is the third game in the series), but even that is merely speculation at this point. You're absolutely right. I'm just spit balling based on visual motifs.
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Post by TheMetallicMuse on Feb 13, 2017 18:44:05 GMT -5
You said the the redhead and blonde girl in the trailer look more like "actual humans", but what does that mean? A Zohar symbol on their chest doesn't mean they're more human than another person. They look more human than an alien elf lady does Ah, ok. Yes, you're right. I thought you were saying they look more like actual humans as apposed to looking more robotic. Sorry. Changing the subject, something I have yet to see discussed anywhere is the small container on the protagonist's lower back. I wonder what it could contain. If he really is a scavenger of ancient relics as Socran theorised, it may just be something mundane like a bottle of water. Of course, there is also the chance it is nothing.
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Post by Momo on Feb 14, 2017 14:06:14 GMT -5
They look more human than an alien elf lady does Ah, ok. Yes, you're right. I thought you were saying they look more like actual humans as apposed to looking more robotic. Sorry. Changing the subject, something I have yet to see discussed anywhere is the small container on the protagonist's lower back. I wonder what it could contain. If he really is a scavenger of ancient relics as Socran theorised, it may just be something mundane like a bottle of water. Of course, there is also the chance it is nothing. Honestly, I keep picturing it as some sort of pump thanks to that yellow thing on the side. But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if the thing has a purpose in the gameplay.
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Post by Primulus on Feb 14, 2017 14:35:08 GMT -5
It looks like it has a latch. The more I look at it all blown up like that, the more it looks like some kind of parachute. Like if you pulled the yellow handle, it could release the latch and a parachute could come out from it.
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Post by InnerSanctum on Feb 14, 2017 15:19:02 GMT -5
It looks like it has a latch. The more I look at it all blown up like that, the more it looks like some kind of parachute. Like if you pulled the yellow handle, it could release the latch and a parachute could come out from it. That's exactly what I thought it could be. I noticed that the yellow handle is visible on both sides. It could be that in order to release the parachute, the MC would need to use both hands. I could be completely wrong however.
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Post by inquisitor on Feb 14, 2017 15:29:12 GMT -5
My first thought was mountain climbing, but then I realized that having the cord attached there would be very uncomfortable.
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Post by ancientrune on Feb 14, 2017 16:28:40 GMT -5
i dont know about everyone else but my first thought that it was an ether cylinder similar to the ones found in the mag mel ruins in xenoblade, perhaps he is actually a mobile artillery unit solder and not a treasure hunter at all, i mean using a big machine like that wearing a helmet would make sense.
there are also other unique parts to his outfit, if you look closely you can actually see that there are also 4 gears on him as well. one on each thigh and one over each of his pecs. it seems to me that there are too many mechanical parts to his outfit for it to be just be coincidence.
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Post by Momo on Feb 14, 2017 20:54:59 GMT -5
Oddly, the yellow handle is absent in the artwork below, but that can be excused due it being more detailed than the one with Homura. However, it doesn't appear to be the finished product--Rex's feet isn't partially obscured by the grass and the whale's general appearance is different than the one in the trailer. I never seen anyone bring this up, but regarding Homura, I suspect the dual wing-like protrusions on her back is her weapon, similar to Fiora and Elma's weapons. Just a random thought I wanted to share.
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Post by TheMetallicMuse on Feb 15, 2017 21:56:13 GMT -5
I noticed there's a lack of blue orbs in the trailer. They were even present in the first X teaser when the game had placeholder UI. Perhaps the blue orbs have been changed into actual plants and whatnot, like in the new Zelda and The Witcher 3? There's a shrub with blue petals here: m.imgur.com/NP3YDzzThere's also a red shrub here: m.imgur.com/bWiXwPSNo blue orbs would be a MASSIVE improvement. Even better if they are visible in the environment. The less RNG, the better.
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Post by inquisitor on Feb 15, 2017 22:05:56 GMT -5
Possible, but unlikely. Again, too early to say.
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Post by TheMetallicMuse on Feb 15, 2017 22:41:08 GMT -5
Possible, but unlikely. Again, too early to say. Why is it unlikely? It would fix RNG and make collectables feel more like an organic part of the environment. Look at the new Zelda and The Witcher 3 as a prime example of this.
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Post by inquisitor on Feb 16, 2017 6:13:31 GMT -5
I say it's unlikely because we've seen nothing that points to it. Your plants are most likely just that. Plants. It may very well be true, but I don't see it happening
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Post by TheMetallicMuse on Feb 16, 2017 7:48:47 GMT -5
I say it's unlikely because we've seen nothing that points to it. Your plants are most likely just that. Plants. It may very well be true, but I don't see it happening True, it's just speculation either way, but I can see it happening myself. I'm not sure why you think it's out of the realm of possibility tbh. No developer wants blue orbs over actual representations of an item.
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Post by inquisitor on Feb 16, 2017 7:57:32 GMT -5
When did I say it wasn't possible? I said it could happen, I just don't see it. It was in both Xenoblade games, so I'm not going to assume they changed anything until they show otherwise.
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Post by TheMetallicMuse on Feb 16, 2017 8:23:33 GMT -5
When did I say it wasn't possible? I said it could happen, I just don't see it. It was in both Xenoblade games, so I'm not going to assume they changed anything until they show otherwise. Blue orbs in X were most likely kept over from Xenoblade because Monolith had to focus on building HD assets. Since it was their first HD open world game, their focus was on map exploration and character build customisation. Colllectables now being actual representations of an item instead of little floating blue orbs would be a logical step forward at least.
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Post by inquisitor on Feb 16, 2017 8:27:52 GMT -5
I guess. Though, I hope they don't get rid of the funny/weird items because of that. Wouldn't seeing Riki's tambourine or something in the middle of an oil field break immersion or something?
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Post by goombastew on Feb 16, 2017 8:33:35 GMT -5
Well, the blue orbs may or may not return. Items having in game models would be a nice uprade to the game's visual appeal, and it would make the game feel more alive. But I do feel it is unlikely for a few reasons.
1. The purpose of the blue orbs, in my opinion helps not only to save space but to just make he game run better. Its a technical marvel that XC and XCX run on the Wii and WiiU, and the blue orbs could be a sacrifice that Monolith Soft had to take to help the game run. The Switch appears to be underpowered compared to other consoles, so they may have to cut corners similarly to what they did with XC and XCX.
2. Monolith Soft may just want to stay true to how the original games were designed. Then again the visual style has changed drastically, so who knows.
Im not saying that it is impossible, but it is unlikely in my opinion.
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Post by TheMetallicMuse on Feb 16, 2017 8:36:44 GMT -5
Well, that could be one of the drawbacks of this, that there is less goofy collectables. I don't know, we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by Socran on Feb 16, 2017 13:33:14 GMT -5
But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if the thing has a purpose in the gameplay. It would definitely come as a surprise to me, although I wouldn't completely rule it out. The thing is, anything about a specific outfit being tied to anything in the gameplay would imply that outfits in this game are static, which would be a very noteworthy change (and likely one that wouldn't be received well). This is also one reason why I'm not sold on Homura literally being the sword. You're likely able to change her outfit, but the sword almost certainly won't change to reflect each individual piece. It makes more sense if the implications of the outfits are more about the characters' backstory/occupation than actual gameplay elements. Whatever Rex does that requires all this gear is likely simply the job he had before going off on his journey, the same way Shulk didn't have to wear a lab coat and protective goggles all the time despite being a researcher. And if Homura is connected to the "Monado" without literally being the sword, it would easily explain why she's initially found in a matching outfit but is later able to wear whatever she feels like. Kind of like Seven from the first Xenoblade: orig10.deviantart.net/468e/f/2015/001/2/0/profile_picture_by_t_he_nemesis-d8c6mz4.jpgThere are ways around this, of course, but it's worth keeping changing outfits in mind when examining any possible implications of the outfits themselves.
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Post by TheMetallicMuse on Feb 18, 2017 1:14:37 GMT -5
Not much new information, but it's presented pretty well. She also had a go at translating the dialogue:
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